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Showing posts with label teaching # Back: Regaining Hooks. Show all posts
Showing posts with label teaching # Back: Regaining Hooks. Show all posts

16 October 2019

16/10/2019 - Teaching | Back | Switch to mount & head balance retake

Teaching #908
Artemis BJJ (Easton Road), Can Sönmez, Bristol, UK - 14/10/2019

To maintain hooks, you want to make sure you're driving your heels in firmly into their legs. If you're lazy with those hooks, then your training partner will be able to simply swivel round into your guard. If you instead engage your hooks by digging the heels in, when they try to turn you will move with them.

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In the context of retaking the back, the time to use the Andre Galvao technical mount back take is is before they get their shoulders to the mat. They've managed to clear one of your hooks and started bringing their hips over. Before they can get their shoulders to the mat, press your chest into their shoulder and roll them onto their side, in the direction they were escaping. You'll probably need to balance on your shoulder and head to get into the right position.

As they have cleared one of your legs, you should be able to then slide that knee behind their head (you might need to post on an arm, but see if you can do it without releasing your seatbelt grip). Sit back and roll them over your knee, then re-establish your second hook (note that in sparring, this will almost certainly be blocked). You can keep doing that from side to side as a drill.

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To go from technical mount to the back, the motion is the same, but you are in a more stable starting position. Simply drop back from technical mount, rolling them over the knee you have near your head. The foot you had by their hip becomes your first hook, so you just need to bring the second hook over. That can be easier said than done, which is why we'll be discussing some methods on getting that second hook into play as part of a future lesson.

When they are blocking your second hook, cross your free foot over your hooking foot. At first that might seem counter-intuitive, because crossing your feet on the back normally puts you at risk of a foot lock. However, if you only have one hook and cross your feet, they can't properly apply pressure against your ankle. Making sure you are aligned with the bottom of their spin, you can then thrust your hips forwards into them and pull back with your seat belt grip.

The result should be that your partner is bent around and stretched out, so that they can no longer connect their knee and elbow to block your foot. That's your chance to quickly insert your second hook, before they can recover their defensive position. When doing the hip extension, don't forget to keep control of their lower leg with your first hook. Otherwise they can just pop over and escape.

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The most intuitive option when you lose your hooks is to switch to mount. This option is mainly for when you are starting to lose the back and they manage to get their shoulders to the mat. At this point, you don't really have the back position any more, but there is an easy switch to mount. For that to remain viable, you need to drift your far heel over to their far hip, locking that in place. Use that as an anchor to pull yourself over into mount. You may also need to pull your elbow free, as that can potentially get stuck under their head (depending on your positioning before you started to lose the back).



Sometimes, your partner may try bridging their weight back onto you to pin you to the mats. To deal with bridging, if you want to return them to an upright seated position, a risky but potentially useful option is to kick them back out with your legs. Flick your shins around to behind their knees and kick them forwards. The main issue here is if they're able to anticipate what you're doing, as they can then time their escape to pop over both your hooks.



If you lose both hooks, as long as you maintain your seat belt you're still in control. Staying low, walking your feet around, until you are belly down, your legs pointing out directly opposite to their legs so that your bodies are in line. Walk your knees towards them, which should push them into an upright sitting position. From there, bring your hook over, or you could step on their thigh if necessary. You can then retake the back.

If they manage to dislodge your first attempt, you can just keep doing that walk around. However, you need to have the seatbelt: this demonstrates why having that seatbelt grip is more important than having the hooks. It is much harder to re-establish your seat belt if they dislodge your arms.

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Teaching Notes: On the rolling them back over, you don't just balance on your head and shoulder. Your weight is also pressed into their back, you're using them as base. That's worth emphasising next time. I combined this with the switch to mount, the most straightforward. Having those two together might be enough, as one is when they have their back to the ground, the other is when you've managed to keep yourself tight to them.

Could also be worth emphasising tightness of hooks? Or some other thing, I don't want to overburden the lesson. Something that fits, so I guess still talking about tightness, stopping them from turning? Practice this before next time, think about what can go wrong that connects with them turning their back towards the ground.

Also, text above puts everything together, whereas I've been teaching bits of that in separate lessons. Maybe the option to try for next time is when they get back to the mat, Galvao retake and the walk around behind if you completely lose hooks? That might make sense. Possibly worth throwing in single hook and hip thrust as that can apply to Galvao retake, maybe instead of walk behind? Still needs further thought on what's the best combo. :)

06 March 2019

06/03/2019 - Teaching | Back | Regaining hooks

Teaching #841
Artemis BJJ (MYGYM Bristol), Can Sönmez, Bristol, UK - 06/03/2019

To maintain hooks, you want to make sure you're driving your heels in firmly into their legs. If you're lazy with those hooks, then your training partner will be able to simply swivel round into your guard. If you instead engage your hooks by digging the heels in, when they try to turn you will move with them.

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In the context of retaking the back, the time to use the Andre Galvao technical mount back take is is before they get their shoulders to the mat. They've managed to clear one of your hooks and started bringing their hips over. Before they can get their shoulders to the mat, press your chest into their shoulder and roll them onto their side, in the direction they were escaping. You'll probably need to balance on your shoulder and head to get into the right position.

As they have cleared one of your legs, you should be able to then slide that knee behind their head (you might need to post on an arm, but see if you can do it without releasing your seatbelt grip). Sit back and roll them over your knee, then re-establish your second hook (note that in sparring, this will almost certainly be blocked). You can keep doing that from side to side as a drill.

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To go from technical mount to the back, the motion is the same, but you are in a more stable starting position. Simply drop back from technical mount, rolling them over the knee you have near your head. The foot you had by their hip becomes your first hook, so you just need to bring the second hook over. That can be easier said than done, which is why we'll be discussing some methods on getting that second hook into play as part of a future lesson.

When they are blocking your second hook, cross your free foot over your hooking foot. At first that might seem counter-intuitive, because crossing your feet on the back normally puts you at risk of a foot lock. However, if you only have one hook and cross your feet, they can't properly apply pressure against your ankle. Making sure you are aligned with the bottom of their spin, you can then thrust your hips forwards into them and pull back with your seat belt grip.

The result should be that your partner is bent around and stretched out, so that they can no longer connect their knee and elbow to block your foot. That's your chance to quickly insert your second hook, before they can recover their defensive position. When doing the hip extension, don't forget to keep control of their lower leg with your first hook. Otherwise they can just pop over and escape.

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The most intuitive option when you lose your hooks is to switch to mount. This option is mainly for when you are starting to lose the back and they manage to get their shoulders to the mat. At this point, you don't really have the back position any more, but there is an easy switch to mount. For that to remain viable, you need to drift your far heel over to their far hip, locking that in place. Use that as an anchor to pull yourself over into mount. You may also need to pull your elbow free, as that can potentially get stuck under their head (depending on your positioning before you started to lose the back).

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Sometimes, your partner may try bridging their weight back onto you to pin you to the mats. To deal with bridging, if you want to return them to an upright seated position, a risky but potentially useful option is to kick them back out with your legs. Flick your shins around to behind their knees and kick them forwards. The main issue here is if they're able to anticipate what you're doing, as they can then time their escape to pop over both your hooks.



If you lose both hooks, as long as you maintain your seat belt you're still in control. Staying low, walking your feet around, until you are belly down, your legs pointing out directly opposite to their legs so that your bodies are in line. Walk your knees towards them, which should push them into an upright sitting position. From there, bring your hook over, or you could step on their thigh if necessary. You can then retake the back.

If they manage to dislodge your first attempt, you can just keep doing that walk around. However, you need to have the seatbelt: this demonstrates why having that seatbelt grip is more important than having the hooks. It is much harder to re-establish your seat belt if they dislodge your arms.

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Teaching Notes: I went with the usual regain the back after you've lost one hook, which also makes it possible to add in the hip thrust to regain your second hook there too. After that I tried going with the Charles kick out, into the walk around behind, which feels like a good combination as those fit together. I didn't have the switch to mount here, keeping that with the basic maintenance lesson. I think it probably fits better with that lesson, as it's the most intuitive option. This one can probably handle those three options, as the simple regain the back isn't the most tricky. I'll keep playing with it.

12 March 2018

12/03/2018 - Teaching | Back | Regaining Hooks

Teaching #763
Artemis BJJ (MYGYM Bristol), Can Sönmez, Bristol, UK - 12/03/2018

To maintain hooks, you want to make sure you're driving your heels in firmly into their legs. If you're lazy with those hooks, then your training partner will be able to simply swivel round into your guard. If you instead engage your hooks by digging the heels in, when they try to turn you will move with them.

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In the context of retaking the back, the time to use the Andre Galvao technical mount back take is is before they get their shoulders to the mat. They've managed to clear one of your hooks and started bringing their hips over. Before they can get their shoulders to the mat, press your chest into their shoulder and roll them onto their side, in the direction they were escaping. You'll probably need to balance on your shoulder and head to get into the right position.

As they have cleared one of your legs, you should be able to then slide that knee behind their head (you might need to post on an arm, but see if you can do it without releasing your seatbelt grip). Sit back and roll them over your knee, then re-establish your second hook (note that in sparring, this will almost certainly be blocked). You can keep doing that from side to side as a drill.

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To go from technical mount to the back, the motion is the same, but you are in a more stable starting position. Simply drop back from technical mount, rolling them over the knee you have near your head. The foot you had by their hip becomes your first hook, so you just need to bring the second hook over. That can be easier said than done, which is why we'll be discussing some methods on getting that second hook into play as part of a future lesson.

When they are blocking your second hook, cross your free foot over your hooking foot. At first that might seem counter-intuitive, because crossing your feet on the back normally puts you at risk of a foot lock. However, if you only have one hook and cross your feet, they can't properly apply pressure against your ankle. Making sure you are aligned with the bottom of their spin, you can then thrust your hips forwards into them and pull back with your seat belt grip.

The result should be that your partner is bent around and stretched out, so that they can no longer connect their knee and elbow to block your foot. That's your chance to quickly insert your second hook, before they can recover their defensive position. When doing the hip extension, don't forget to keep control of their lower leg with your first hook. Otherwise they can just pop over and escape.

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The most intuitive option when you lose your hooks is to switch to mount. This option is mainly for when you are starting to lose the back and they manage to get their shoulders to the mat. At this point, you don't really have the back position any more, but there is an easy switch to mount. For that to remain viable, you need to drift your far heel over to their far hip, locking that in place. Use that as an anchor to pull yourself over into mount. You may also need to pull your elbow free, as that can potentially get stuck under their head (depending on your positioning before you started to lose the back).

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If you lose both hooks, as long as you maintain your seat belt you're still in control. Staying low, walking your feet around, until you are belly down, your legs pointing out directly opposite to their legs so that your bodies are in line. Walk your knees towards them, which should push them into an upright sitting position. From there, bring your hook over, or you could step on their thigh if necessary. You can then retake the back.

If they manage to dislodge your first attempt, you can just keep doing that walk around. However, you need to have the seatbelt: this demonstrates why having that seatbelt grip is more important than having the hooks. It is much harder to re-establish your seat belt if they dislodge your arms.

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Teaching Notes: Being careful of the knee, making sure your knee is close in to them. Do I need the third part I taught? I think it fits, but I might do it in a different order next time. I started off with mount recovery today, but I reckon that makes more sense to do second. That's where you are starting to lose the back, so second would be better. Also worth mentioning on the walk back around one that you don't want to pull them back directly over their ankles. That's risky, in terms of injury to them.

So, change order, along with knee up high and cutting it under. Also, lots of videos to move around in this post, so I'll check those after publishing. ;)



15 September 2017

15/09/2017 - Teaching | Back | Maintaining & Regaining Hooks

Teaching #705
Artemis BJJ (MYGYM Bristol), Can Sönmez, Bristol, UK - 15/09/2017

To maintain hooks, you want to make sure you're driving your heels in firmly into their legs. If you're lazy with those hooks, then your training partner will be able to simply swivel round into your guard. If you instead engage your hooks by digging the heels in, when they try to turn you will move with them.

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In the context of retaking the back, the time to use the Andre Galvao technical mount back take is is before they get their shoulders to the mat. They've managed to clear one of your hooks and started bringing their hips over. Before they can get their shoulders to the mat, press your chest into their shoulder and roll them onto their side, in the direction they were escaping. You'll probably need to balance on your shoulder and head to get into the right position.

As they have cleared one of your legs, you should be able to then slide that knee behind their head (you might need to post on an arm, but see if you can do it without releasing your seatbelt grip). Sit back and roll them over your knee, then re-establish your second hook (note that in sparring, this will almost certainly be blocked). You can keep doing that from side to side as a drill.

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To go from technical mount to the back, the motion is the same, but you are in a more stable starting position. Simply drop back from technical mount, rolling them over the knee you have near your head. The foot you had by their hip becomes your first hook, so you just need to bring the second hook over. That can be easier said than done, which is why we'll be discussing some methods on getting that second hook into play as part of a future lesson.

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When they are blocking your second hook, cross your free foot over your hooking foot. At first that might seem counter-intuitive, because crossing your feet on the back normally puts you at risk of a foot lock. However, if you only have one hook and cross your feet, they can't properly apply pressure against your ankle. Making sure you are aligned with the bottom of their spin, you can then thrust your hips forwards into them and pull back with your seat belt grip.

The result should be that your partner is bent around and stretched out, so that they can no longer connect their knee and elbow to block your foot. That's your chance to quickly insert your second hook, before they can recover their defensive position. When doing the hip extension, don't forget to keep control of their lower leg with your first hook. Otherwise they can just pop over and escape.

If you lose both hooks, as long as you maintain your seat belt you're still in control. Staying low, walking your feet around, until you are belly down, your legs pointing out directly opposite to their legs so that your bodies are in line. Walk your knees towards them, which should push them into an upright sitting position. From there, bring your hook over, or you could step on their thigh if necessary. You can then retake the back.

If they manage to dislodge your first attempt, you can just keep doing that walk around. However, you need to have the seatbelt: this demonstrates why having that seatbelt grip is more important than having the hooks. It is much harder to re-establish your seat belt if they dislodge your arms.

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Teaching Notes: There was a lot to fit in, but I think it was all useful. I mentioned hooks and clamping, is that always necessary? Probably something to talk about in the basic maintaining lesson instead. It's also a good idea to combine the back retake with the Marcelo hip thrust, that will save some time when demonstrating next time. On walking behind, I should emphasise that you need to go all the way behind so there isn't that need to yank them (I don't think I did it quite perfectly in the video, so must be all the way behind when I demonstrate next time). On crossing the legs for that Marcelo hip thrust, wriggle down first. It is also worth emphasising that a single hook hold with feet crossed behind is fine, you don't have to have hooks in front except for getting 4 points at competition.

23 November 2015

23/11/2015 - Teaching | The Back | Regaining Hooks

Teaching #426
Artemis BJJ (MYGYM Bristol), Can Sönmez, Bristol, UK - 23/11/2015

Tonight I wanted to go through a couple more tips on maintaining the back, focused on what to do if you lose your hooks. If you have lost one hook, you can retake the back like I taught earlier, which I re-emphasised again during the warm-up drills. Should it be that you have one hook in but can't establish the other, then Marcelo Garcia's 'hip extension' comes in useful.

When they are blocking your second hook, cross your free foot over your hooking foot. At first that might seem counter-intuitive, because crossing your feet on the back normally puts you at risk of a foot lock. However, if you only have one hook and cross your feet, they can't properly apply pressure against your ankle. Making sure you are aligned with the bottom of their spin, you can then thrust your hips forwards into them and pull back with your seat belt grip.

The result should be that your partner is bent around and stretched out, so that they can no longer connect their knee and elbow to block your foot. That's your chance to quickly insert your second hook, before they can recover their defensive position. When doing the hip extension, don't forget to keep control of their lower leg with your first hook. Otherwise they can just pop over and escape.

If you lose both hooks, as long as you maintain your seat belt you're still in control. Staying low, walking your feet around, until you are belly down, your legs pointing out directly opposite to their legs so that your bodies are in line. Walk your knees towards them, which should push them into an upright sitting position. From there, bring your hook over, or you could step on their thigh if necessary. You can then retake the back.

If they manage to dislodge your first attempt, you can just keep doing that walk around. However, you need to have the seatbelt: this demonstrates why having that seatbelt grip is more important than having the hooks. It is much harder to re-establish your seat belt if they dislodge your arms.
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Teaching Notes: I haven't had a clear split between my back maintenance lessons up until now, but this one felt like a potentially effective technique combination for the future. The hip thrust fits with the walk around, as both rely on having that seat belt grip in place. Next time, I'll emphasise that you should walk all the way around so your body is in line. Otherwise, you end up having to yank them a bit because you're more on their side (which can still work of course, but I think it's less efficient).

My neck is still unhappy, so I'm not sure it's going to be ready to resume normal training by the end of the week. I wasn't joining in sparring in order to give it more of a rest, which may have to be the case for the rest of this week too.

13 August 2013

13/08/2013 - Teaching (Maintaining the Back)

Teaching #119
Gracie Barra Bristol, (BJJ), Can Sönmez, Bristol, UK - 13/08/2013

The very awesome Aesopian has just started a podcast, here. If you're not aware of Aesopian, he's a black belt under Eduardo de Lima who is basically the Godfather of BJJ blogging. He's the person I looked up to when I started this blog, a respect that's only grown as he continues to produce excellent content. I received a preview of the podcast, so I already know it's a quality listen. The format is short answers to common BJJ questions, delivered with Aesopian's trademark solid advice coupled with wry humour. Go listen to it. Now. :)
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It is common when on the back that you might find they manage to knock off one of your hooks, or perhaps you're struggling to establish that second hook. If that happens, in order to take the back fully, use what Marcelo Garcia calls the 'hip extension'. If they are blocking your second hook, cross your free foot over your hooking foot. Although crossing your feet if you had both hooks would be asking to get foot-locked, if you only have one hook, it means they can't properly apply pressure against your ankle. You can then thrust your hips forwards into them while simultaneously pulling back with your seat belt grip.

The result should be that your partner is bent around and stretched out, so that they can no longer connect their knee and elbow to block your foot. That's your chance to quickly insert a second hook, before they can recover their defensive position. When doing the hip extension, don't forget to keep control of their lower leg with your first hook. Otherwise they can just pop over and escape.

Another option to keep in mind is when they've managed to clear one of your hooks, or it's slipping and you want to replace it. You might find that you can put the cleared hook foot on the floor (still keeping your knee tight) and bridge, to roll them back to the other side and re-establish that hook. Be careful though, as they are obviously going to react if you release a hook: you'll need good timing and close control.

If you feel them starting to escape, you can use your foot on your underhook side (so, the side on which you arm is threaded under their armpit) to hook behind their same side knee. Lift that high in the air, then dump then back towards your overhook side. This is particularly useful if they are trying to get back to the centre, bridge and press their weight into you, in order to start wriggling their shoulders to the mat and begin their escape.

The last bit I wanted to add was a straightforward tip when they try to control your arm and pull it over your head. Pop up slightly, in order to have the base to pull your elbow back. That should severely reduce the leverage they can muster against your arm. For that and all of the above, there's a handy video from Marshal Carper (one of the co-authors on Marcelo Garcia's latest book), where he covers maintaining the back Marcelo-style.

My preference, if lifting the leg proves difficult and they get you onto the 'wrong' side, is simply switching arms. If you can't get your arm right into the neck, just grabbing whatever material you can was helpful too. That should provide you with some control, in terms of stopping them rolling away to try and escape. To get a really solid control, reach across for their far lapel and pull it across their body, for what is effectively a literal seat belt.

You can also try to maintain control of them largely with one hook, extending that hook across to their other leg. Hook under the far leg, while pressuring down with your upper leg to stymie the movement of their near leg. It also leaves my other leg free to do things like pushing down on top of their upper leg any time they attempt to wriggle out. Potentially that extended single hook could even lift their knee enough to reinsert your second hook if you want to put it back in.

Finally, to take yet another cue from Marcelo, even if you lose both hooks, don't give up on the seat belt. Sprawl behind them, then steadily walk your legs up: your aim is to put them in a seated position. From there, you can reinsert your hooks, either by putting them straight in or rolling them over your knee.
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Teaching & Sparring Notes: The Marcelo material seemed to go down fairly well. I was initially unsure about the leg lift, as I don't use it effectively myself, but Mike did a great job using it against me in sparring. If it works well for him, it can work well for others, so definitely something I want to keep showing in class. The no hooks Marcelo recovery also got some approving noises, meaning I'll leave that in as well. I need to revisit arm protection by pulling elbow back, as I'm not sure if I missed some details.

The stuff I've been playing with, like the extended hook, may not be worth putting in next time, but I'll see what feedback is like. I saw a few people use the gi lapel control, like when Simon tried it on me, so that might be worth showing. However, more useful would be a simple turtle back take, perhaps the forward roll over their shoulder. I also forgot to mention the tip on tensing your non-choking side hamstring, so I'll try adding that in next time too.

Sparring was my chance to practice more escapes. I need to secure my position much better when I move to the side. I still get stuck just squirming on my side, I think because I'm not clearing their hook properly. That's particularly noticeable with someone tight like Mike, whose hooks I had real trouble knocking off.

When I did escape, it was sloppy and scrambly, such as the old last ditch pushing into armpits. Mike could have finished a bow and arrow, but was being nice and didn't squash my hand into my face. The second time, I remembered to pull on their elbow with both hands, but I left my arm vulnerable. Again, Mike was close to landing an armbar, which I only escaped because of force and scrambling. I grabbed his gi to stay close, until I could circle round and kneel on his chest. Better than not escaping, I suppose, but if it was largely force then that isn't going to be effective against anybody bigger or when I'm tired.

03 May 2012

03/05/2012 - Teaching (Maintaining the Back)

Teaching #052
Gracie Barra Bristol, (BJJ), Can Sönmez, Bristol, UK - 03/05/2012

It is common when on the back that you might find they manage to knock off one of your hooks, or perhaps you're struggling to establish that second hook. If that happens, in order to take the back fully, use the grip you have with your arms to put them on your side, towards your remaining hook. Come up a little on your elbow and pull your remaining hook up slightly. Bring that foot across their body to hook their other leg. You're looking to retain enough control that you can then reinsert your second hook, particularly if their reaction is to kick out that leg.

That does take a bit of flexibility, so it may not fit into everybody's game. There is another option, which Marcelo Garcia calls the 'hip extension'. This doesn't depend on flexibility. If they are blocking your second hook, cross your free foot over your hooking foot. Although crossing your feet if you had both hooks would be asking to get foot-locked, if you only have one hook, it means they can't properly apply pressure against your ankle. You can then thrust your hips forwards into them and pull with your seat belt grip.

The result should be that your partner is bent around and stretched out, so that they can no longer connect their knee and elbow to block your foot. That's your chance to quickly insert a second hook, before they can recover their defensive position. When doing the hip extension, don't forget to keep control of their lower leg with your first hook. Otherwise they can just pop over and escape.

Another simple option to keep in mind is when they've managed to clear one of your hooks, or it's slipping and you want to replace it. You might find that you can simply put the cleared hook foot on the floor (still keeping your knee tight) and bridge, to roll them back to the other side and re-establish that hook. Be careful though, as they are obviously going to react if you release a hook: you'll need good timing and close control.

Similarly, and again this is a Marcelo tactic, you can use your foot on your underhook side (so, the side on which you arm is threaded under their armpit) to hook behind their same side knee. Lift that high in the air, then dump then back towards your overhook side. This is particularly useful if they are trying to get back to the centre, bridge and press their weight into you, in order to start wriggling their shoulders to the mat and begin their escape.

Incidentally, Marshal Carper (one of the co-authors on Marcelo Garcia's latest book) did a handy video on maintaining the back Marcelo-style.