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Showing posts with label teaching # Side Control: Kimura Follow Ups. Show all posts
Showing posts with label teaching # Side Control: Kimura Follow Ups. Show all posts

09 October 2020

09/10/2020 - Teaching | Side Control | Kimura hug

Teaching #952
Artemis BJJ (Easton Road), Can Sönmez, Bristol, UK - 09/10/2020

Short Version:
  • They grab their gi/belt to block your kimura
  • Release your grip on your own wrist, instead grabbing your other tricep
  • Release your grip on their wrist, reaching under their elbow and grabbing your remaining tricep
  • Walk your elbows out, then move your legs around past their head
  • With your weight on their shoulder, tilt your elbows towards their head



Full Version: This follow up to the kimura is a technique Daniel Bertina has been using since he was a child training judo, apparently. You go for the kimura, but they grab their belt or whatever to block your submission. Reach all the way through with your wrist gripping hand, hugging your own triceps. Your other hand goes under their elbow, reaching for your other triceps. Squeeze your arms together and wriggle them forwards, for a count of 1-2-3.

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Next, walk your legs around towards their head, until your can shift your weight onto their far shoulder. To finish, twist your elbow nearest to their head up to apply a shoulderlock. Daniel advises bringing your leg through into a scarf hold type position, then applying the finish. I've decided to call this the kimura hug, which feels appropriate (and I like that it sounds cuddly instead of nasty ;D). It's possible to get the tap from the cutting pressure of your forearm, though personally I prefer to avoid anything that relies on pain and leaves lasting soreness.

To avoid that pain, all the person on the bottom needs to do is keep their gripping fist horizontal, to avoid engaging the muscle (ligament? Something pops up when turn your hand). Make sure they don't turn their thumb up, as that will then increase the forearm pressure. You can do this on the near side too, as well as an acrobatic jump into the position off a guard pass.

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Teaching Notes: Covering for Alasdair, hence why I was teaching on a Friday. The classes are continiuing to go pretty well, decent numbers and more opportunities to keep adding back more classes appearing. In terms of the technique teaching, I don't have too much to add, so I'll copy the notes from the last time I taught this. Which were:

It is of course important that people already know the kimura for this. Walking out the elbows is important, also dropping your weight onto their shoulder. Generally when people couldn't finish the submission, it was one of those two things, so that's what would be worth emphasising next time. I mentioned briefly you could do this from a north south kimura they were blocking too, which is worth mentioning as I find myself going for that far more often than a standard side control kimura.

29 November 2019

29/11/2019 - Teaching | Side Control | Reverse kimura

Teaching #919
Artemis BJJ (Easton Road), Can Sönmez, Bristol, UK - 29/11/2019



Once you have a step over triangle from side control, a number of options become available. One of the more unusual ones is what Baret Yoshida calls a reverse kimura. Yoshida's set up comes into play when you are trying for a standard kimura from north south, but they lock their hands together. That makes it easy for you to thread your leg through and lock in a triangle. You can then drop to the side.

From there, bring the arm you have closest to theirs inside those locked arms. This is liable to be a tight squeeze, so works better nogi. You can also try using the lapel wrap during your kimura set up, as that way you can maintain some control as you attempt to shove your other arm into the gap. Once it is through, wedging your elbow/forearm against their arm should result in a tight control. Your can then lock your hands together and twist. At worst that should break their grip, at best you'll have enough control to apply a kimura due to how you've locked their arm in place.



Another situation you might be able to apply this from is when they are defending an armbar and have locked their arms together. The same principles apply, though you have a little less control as you can't lock on a triangle from this position.
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Teaching Notes: It is tricky to get the arm inside, especially if you're bigger and both in gis (due to all that friction). Grabbing the elbow and pushing it to make space, so it ends up flared out, helps a bit. Also, demonstrating nogi when somebody is too big to get it in the gi.

I'm also curious is this has applicability outside of the specific scenario Baret Yoshida shows it from, which is when they lock their hands as you go for the n/s kimura. There are plenty of situation where the hands are locked, most notably armbars from the mount: could it work there? Something I want to play with some more.

20 November 2019

20/11/2019 - N/S Kimura into Breadcutter choke

Teaching #916
Artemis BJJ (Easton Road), Can Sönmez, Bristol, UK - 20/11/2019



The teaching notes are fortunately from the time, but I'm writing the rest of this up in March 2020, so I can't entirely remember exactly how the class went. However, I have been trying to use the breadcutter choke off a lapel wrap kimura, which is something I want to practice more. That works well as a method for following up the kimura when their defence is too tight.

So yeah, next time I need to fill in the description of the technique properly. Got a significant backlog with old posts, starting to gradually go through them. ;)

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Teaching Notes: Pin the arm down with your shin to block it. Note that you might start with a deep grip, but to apply, it is much higher. That's in order to get enough pressure from your forearm into the other side of their neck, which is what gets the choke. Also, the importance of where to place your weight: on your toes, driving your weight into them.

22 November 2017

22/11/2017 - Teaching | Side Control | Kimura Hug

Teaching #728
Artemis BJJ (MYGYM Bristol), Can Sönmez, Bristol, UK - 22/11/2017

Short Version:
  • They grab their gi/belt to block your kimura
  • Release your grip on your own wrist, instead grabbing your other tricep
  • Release your grip on their wrist, reaching under their elbow and grabbing your remaining tricep
  • Walk your elbows out, then move your legs around past their head
  • With your weight on their shoulder, tilt your elbows towards their head

Full Version: This follow up to the kimura is a technique Daniel Bertina has been using since he was a child training judo, apparently. You go for the kimura, but they grab their belt or whatever to block your submission. Reach all the way through with your wrist gripping hand, hugging your own triceps. Your other hand goes under their elbow, reaching for your other triceps. Squeeze your arms together and wriggle them forwards, for a count of 1-2-3.

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Next, walk your legs around towards their head, until your can shift your weight onto their far shoulder. To finish, twist your elbow nearest to their head up to apply a shoulderlock. Daniel advises bringing your leg through into a scarf hold type position, then applying the finish. I've decided to call this the kimura hug, which feels appropriate (and I like that it sounds cuddly instead of nasty ;D). It's possible to get the tap from the cutting pressure of your forearm, though personally I prefer to avoid anything that relies on pain and leaves lasting soreness.

To avoid that pain, all the person on the bottom needs to do is keep their gripping fist horizontal, to avoid engaging the muscle (ligament? Something pops up when turn your hand). Make sure they don't turn their thumb up, as that will then increase the forearm pressure. You can do this on the near side too, as well as an acrobatic jump into the position off a guard pass.

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Teaching Notes: This seemed to go fairly well, though it is of course important that people already know the kimura for this. Walking out the elbows is important, also dropping your weight onto their shoulder. Generally when people couldn't finish the submission, it was one of those two things, so that's what would be worth emphasising next time. I mentioned briefly you could do this from a north south kimura they were blocking too, which is worth mentioning as I find myself going for that far more often than a standard side control kimura.


Also, the Wednesday class is getting MASSIVE. We had about 30 people on the mats! The vid embedded below isn't even all of them, a few were sat behind me. ;)

20 November 2017

20/11/2017 - Teaching | Side Control | N/S Kimura to Armbar

Teaching #727
Artemis BJJ (MYGYM Bristol), Can Sönmez, Bristol, UK - 20/11/2017
Short Version:
  • You're going for the north south kimura, but they grab their gi/belt
  • Maintaining a tight figure four, step your knee up on their hand side
  • Swivel to face the side their elbow was pointing, tucking the foot of your raised leg under their side
  • Squeeze your knees and staying close to their hips, drop back
  • Keep the figure four grip as long as possible, then pull on the wrist and raise your hips
Full Version: If you're having trouble finishing the kimura from north south (most commonly because they have grabbed their gi), you can instead switch to an armbar. Bring your knee up on their trapped arm side. This will enable you to put your whole body into it when you turn towards their other side, which should break their grip. Make sure you keep that figure four grip, as it is about to prove useful. If possible, you also want to try and slip your foot into the armpit of their free arm, which should help prevent their escape attempt.

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Pinch your knees together to control their arm, in what is sometimes called a 'Japanese armbar' position (I'm not sure why: something from Japan, I guess? Or maybe Pancrase? Leave a comment if you know). You don't have both your legs over their body, which means that the hitchhiker escape is a possibility. It's called that because they lead with their thumb pointing the way out, turning their body and walking around. However, because you have that figure-four grip, they can't use it anymore. If they try to turn away, you can just apply the kimura. In order to relieve the pressure, they'll have to turn back. You can then drop to the mat, switching your grip to finish the armbar as normal. Another option is to grab their leg, wrapping underneath it ideally. That will prevent them turning, because they need to swivel that leg down: they can't if your arm is in the way.

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Teaching Notes: This does rather rely on people already knowing the N/S kimura, so I am still wondering if the hopping armbar would be better to teach just in case of beginners. Next time, I should try teaching that in isolation. Then I can say to the more experience people that it also works from the N/S kimura, much the same motion.

Another thing to add is some pointers on the basics of armbars, like squeezing the knees together. Making sure the foot is tucked under is important too for the Japanese armbar, while noting that the 'standard' armbar is much stronger.